DJCubanito
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Formula For Success!
Wanna be a successful song writer and have your songs played all over pop radio?
Then write dumb lyrics like these, and show the world your inability to know the difference from Japan and Thailand.
Then get a producer to give you some of his lamest beats, the really cheap ones, you know the ones no body has wanted ever and he could not sell for
years, then steal the melody from five or six different songs that have been recorded before, and you're sure to have a hit.
After all, no one is going to care, and your target audience is so dumb down by BET, MTV, Mun2, MTV3, that it will hit the mark!!!
Check out these fabulous dumbed down lyrics...
(chorus)
Shawty Imma only tell you this once, you the illest (dat for dat dat dude) And for your lovin' Imma Die Hard like Bruce Willis (bah ba dah dah oh) You
got spark, you, you got spunk You, you got something all the girls want You're like a candy store And I'm a toddlor.
You got me wantin' more and ma ma more of
Your love,your love(yeah) (repeat 4x) Your love, your love (repeat 4x)
(Verse 1)
Yo(yo) He the type to pop tags and be cockin the brim Might breeze through The Ave, might stop at the gym And he keep a du rag, keep his wave on swim
Wa waves on swim so they hate on him Anyway I think I met him sometime before In a different life or where I record I mean he was Adam, I think I was
Eve But my vision ends with the apple on the tree 'S' on my chest cuz I'm ready to save him Cuz I'm the one like I'm Tracy McGrady And I think I love
him like Eminem call us Shady When he call me mama, lil mama, I call him baby
(chorus)
Shawty Imma only tell you this once, you're the illest (dat for dat dat dude) And for your lovin' Imma Die Hard like Bruce Willis (bah ba dah dah oh)
You got spark, you, you got spunk You, you got something all the girls want You're like a candy store And I'm a toddlor.
You got me wantin' more and ma ma more of Your love,your love(yeah) (repeat 4x) Your love, your love {repeat 4x} (yo, yo yo yo)
(Verse 2)
He they type to keep a couple hundred grand in a rubberband Just left Money Gram in the Lemon Lam Hot dang make me scream like summer jam I mean that
nigga must be from the motherland Anyway I think I met him in the Sky When I was a Geisha he was a Samari Somehow I understood him when he spoke Thai
Never spoke lies and he never broke fly S on my chest let me get my cape on where tha certificate that I changed my name on Na Na Na Name on where tha
certificate that I changed my name on
(chorus)
Shawty Imma only tell you this once, you're the illest (dat for dat dat dude) And for your lovin' Imma Die Hard like Bruce Willis (bah ba dah dah oh)
You got spark, you, you got spunk You, you got something all the girls want You're like a candy store And I'm a toddler.
You got me wantin' more and mo mo more and Your love,your love(yeah) (repeat 4x) Your love, your love (repeat 4x)
Find me in the dark I'll be in the stars Find me in your heart I'm in need of your love
Niiiiiice....
Quotations "Only sick music makes money today" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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discodan
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I don't know that song, surely it's not actually a hit?
To be fair, popular songs with dumb lyrics and lame productions have plagued music since the beginning of time. At least the old ones were ORIGINAL
and bad, though. I gotta admit I'm tired of this decade of covers, re-makes, re-sampling, re-boots, re-dos, re-imaginings, sequels, prequels,
betweenquels and all that crap.
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Twiloboy
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Unfortunately it IS a hit. Your Love by Nicki Minaj. Which samples No More I Love You's. Sad, sad excuse for music.
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yecin
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I absolutely agree with you DjCubanito  Adding a strong promotion and an
expensive video clip and your song will be a worldwide hit. This is for this reason I hate 99% of mainstream songs. Everything is calculated,
designed, configured to bring maximum of dough. I will ever, never understand why some people are literally in extasy with "artists" like Pitbull,
Taio Cruz or Rihanna....
Let the music use you up!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by yecin  | | I absolutely agree with you DjCubanito Adding a strong promotion and an
expensive video clip and your song will be a worldwide hit. This is for this reason I hate 99% of mainstream songs. Everything is calculated,
designed, configured to bring maximum of dough. I will ever, never understand why some people are literally in extasy with "artists" like Pitbull,
Taio Cruz or Rihanna.... |
I agree...specially when it comes to club music. This re-shaping of mainstream music that initially wasn't intended for the dancefloor hopefully will
be coming to an end soon...over ten years of this now. Bring on the independent artists who truly want to make me dance and forget my troubles on a
Saturday night.
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I cant believe. she didnt make featuring first time !!! featuring monster 
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Joel
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Well, right or wrong, with or without artistic integrity, the music industry is a business; so if mundane, unoriginal recycled pop trash is what's
selling, then many will feel an obligation to produce/perform/write that type of material.
What I think we often forget, whether we want to admit it or not, is that these ridiculous songs keep many people employed (producers, writers,
publishers, even administrative support staff) and, so, let's not dismiss the stuff that sells and keeps many off the bread lines.
Also, the dumbed-down big hit numbers help bring in money that the more adventurous artists simply aren't able to. In some cases, these mindless hits
help keep the labels afloat while they may take a chance on some new, unproven talent. Of course the labels are also going to cultivate and "mold"
some more generic mindless acts too. But, it's part of the circle of life.
Joel + John Michael = HELL & KELLER
Joel + John Michael + Billy Waters = AUDIO ASSEMBLY
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| Quote: Originally posted by Joel | Well, right or wrong, with or without artistic integrity, the music industry is a business; so if mundane, unoriginal recycled pop trash is what's
selling, then many will feel an obligation to produce/perform/write that type of material.
What I think we often forget, whether we want to admit it or not, is that these ridiculous songs keep many people employed (producers, writers,
publishers, even administrative support staff) and, so, let's not dismiss the stuff that sells and keeps many off the bread lines.
Also, the dumbed-down big hit numbers help bring in money that the more adventurous artists simply aren't able to. In some cases, these mindless hits
help keep the labels afloat while they may take a chance on some new, unproven talent. Of course the labels are also going to cultivate and "mold"
some more generic mindless acts too. But, it's part of the circle of life. |
Well if this ty[e of music didnt exist then it doesnt mean that there wouldnt be something else in its place. Music will always exist. The quality
of it is something that can change. Music has been S**T for years. I dont look at the billboard chart anymore like i use to. Sampling of songs that
are just dumb to me ... i invented sex, my chick bad, sex room ... I mean come on ... what happened to the days that there was diverse music on the
air ?
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Joel
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Well, if people aren't satisfied with what's out there and what's popular - do something about it!
Make your own track! Start your own label! Be creative and create a product you do believe in.
Lots of individuals have started up labels in recent years and have dedicated themselves to creating new channels where quality music can be created,
distributed and promoted. I think that's the solution to the aforementioned "problem"... Unfortunately, change takes time and there will always be
mindless popular music, so trying to squash it entirely or complain about it seems like a fool's errand.
Joel + John Michael = HELL & KELLER
Joel + John Michael + Billy Waters = AUDIO ASSEMBLY
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frenchy
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doest clearchannel control what is played????
I recall or think I have heard that is true ... I have no evidence or proof of this. Ive wondered if there was some truth to it as the same kind of
music is played locally and other states ...
dont laugh ... could be urban legend ... get it, urban !
ha ha
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DJCubanito
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With all due respect, it's exactly Joel's way of thinking that it is prevalent in today's industry minds. And then it is really easy to challenge the
critics to do a better job, specially when it's so difficult to create and maintain a label afloat in this economically challenged period of time.
Additionally, the level of competition that major and established independent record label represent is just overwhelming to a season veteran, not to
mention a freshman.
And yes, corruption is major part of the problem. It's basically a conspiracy concocted by a well oiled machine backed by major investments, going as
deep as Wallstreet.
It is undeniable and well documented by the free press. Just last week Univision Radio paid the FCC one million dollars in fines for accepting payola.
They claimed that they had no idea that their employees were involved in payola.
A drop in the bucket for Univision, which makes an average of 500 million dollars per quarter year, according to their earning reports.
The same justifying argument is put forth by Cocaine producing countries, blaming the US citizens and the rest of the worlds as consumers of the drug.
After all, if there is no demand, there is no production.
But, upon analyzing the situation one can clearly see that the creation of mediocre music is not an issue of demand. The masses are simply held
hostage by the industry and their well oiled machine.
The issue is basically rooted in the inability of today's so called producers, writers, singers, and inexperienced, musically challenged A & R
executives to discover and produce good solid music.
It reminds me of the movie "Amadeus", where Mozart's adversary Salieri, a less talented contemporary composer, plots to kill Amadeus because he envies
his ability to create master pieces. Deep inside Salieri knows that Mozart is a lot better than he is, and even admires his work, but is so frustrated
to see his work presented to the Austrian court and nobles to a reaction of boredom.
Quotations "Only sick music makes money today" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Couple of old adages could be applied here...
"It's not what you say but how you say it" and "If it was that easy everyone would be doing it" come to mind.
Nicki's kicking ass right now, she could fart on a record and peeps would eat it up. 
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DJCubanito
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Nicki
Ah, the old fart on a record trick! I'm just waiting for the day we hear diarrhea and gonorrhea rhymed on a rap or song. 
Quotations "Only sick music makes money today" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| Quote: Originally posted by DJCubanito | | Ah, the old fart on a record trick! I'm just waiting for the day we hear diarrhea and gonorrhea rhymed on a rap or song. |
Actually, this was accomplished back in 1993 on Ol Dirty Bastard's 'Shame on a
ni**a' (last verse)
I think it's a travesty what passes for status quo in today's pop music. Sometimes I feel lucky growing up in the 80s and 90s back when different
genres and independent artists actually had decent representation. Too much music today is either sanitized or mass-manufactured for the
lowest-common denominator type of listener, and sadly it's those people who don't know enough or care enough to expect anything different. You'd
think that in a country of 300 million people, there would be more variety on the biggest channels/providers, but it's all about the bottom line and
catering to the masses.
I am hopeful for some kind of evolution in the future because today's standard is making average pop music fans seem like f-ing cave-dwellers.
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| Quote: Originally posted by discotronic | | Quote: Originally posted by DJCubanito | | Ah, the old fart on a record trick! I'm just waiting for the day we hear diarrhea and gonorrhea rhymed on a rap or song. |
Actually, this was accomplished back in 1993 on Ol Dirty Bastard's 'Shame on a
ni**a' (last verse)
I think it's a travesty what passes for status quo in today's pop music. Sometimes I feel lucky growing up in the 80s and 90s back when different
genres and independent artists actually had decent representation. Too much music today is either sanitized or mass-manufactured for the
lowest-common denominator type of listener, and sadly it's those people who don't know enough or care enough to expect anything different. You'd
think that in a country of 300 million people, there would be more variety on the biggest channels/providers, but it's all about the bottom line and
catering to the masses.
I am hopeful for some kind of evolution in the future because today's standard is making average pop music fans seem like f-ing cave-dwellers.
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Preach ....
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| Quote: Originally posted by discotronic | | Quote: Originally posted by DJCubanito | | Ah, the old fart on a record trick! I'm just waiting for the day we hear diarrhea and gonorrhea rhymed on a rap or song. |
Actually, this was accomplished back in 1993 on Ol Dirty Bastard's 'Shame on a
ni**a' (last verse)
I think it's a travesty what passes for status quo in today's pop music. Sometimes I feel lucky growing up in the 80s and 90s back when different
genres and independent artists actually had decent representation. Too much music today is either sanitized or mass-manufactured for the
lowest-common denominator type of listener, and sadly it's those people who don't know enough or care enough to expect anything different. You'd
think that in a country of 300 million people, there would be more variety on the biggest channels/providers, but it's all about the bottom line and
catering to the masses.
I am hopeful for some kind of evolution in the future because today's standard is making average pop music fans seem like f-ing cave-dwellers.
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I could not agree more.
Let the music use you up!!!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Joel | Well, right or wrong, with or without artistic integrity, the music industry is a business; so if mundane, unoriginal recycled pop trash is what's
selling, then many will feel an obligation to produce/perform/write that type of material.
What I think we often forget, whether we want to admit it or not, is that these ridiculous songs keep many people employed (producers, writers,
publishers, even administrative support staff) and, so, let's not dismiss the stuff that sells and keeps many off the bread lines.
Also, the dumbed-down big hit numbers help bring in money that the more adventurous artists simply aren't able to. In some cases, these mindless hits
help keep the labels afloat while they may take a chance on some new, unproven talent. Of course the labels are also going to cultivate and "mold"
some more generic mindless acts too. But, it's part of the circle of life. |
Agreed. And I really think a dance music forum is the wrong place to bitch about recycled melodies, cheap beats, dumb lyrics, and talentless
singers... for what should be really, really, really obvious reasons.
I don't know this song, but I've certainly loved my share of dumbed down music (Ke$ha, why can't I quit you???). Most people want to be entertained,
and if this is entertaining to some, so be it. Not to mention I'd feel really hypocritical tearing into a song for being mindless after just watching
The Real Housewives of DC.
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Not even sure I'd call the song a success yet. I'm sure they were expecting better than #14 by now. Anyway, it's the Annie Lennox sample that makes
this song even of interest. As a dance music lover, I have never objected to sampling the hell out of anything. All that being said, the formula for
success has been the same since Elvis Presley. It's all cyclical. I for one am glad that the current radio formula is much dancier than it's been
for 15+ years. And I, too HATE this particular song, mainly because Nicki Minaj in total trash.
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That is exactly my issue with the song. No one seems to infuriate me more than Nicki Minaj right now. I have had several people get very angry at me
because of my distaste for her. My reaction has been, if you want to hate me because of this talentless whore, please, go on ahead and do so! lol
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| Quote: Originally posted by Twiloboy |
That is exactly my issue with the song. No one seems to infuriate me more than Nicki Minaj right now. I have had several people get very angry at me
because of my distaste for her. My reaction has been, if you want to hate me because of this talentless whore, please, go on ahead and do so! lol
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Totally agree ... Woo Hoo
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I've been getting tons of requests for this trashy song including one woman who thought that I needed to be schooled on how GREAT Nicki Minaj is and
how she's the "Future of Music."
For real. Unfortunately, she was the photographer for the event, so I had to feign interest for 5 minutes about it.
As far as music being so dumbed down lately, thank the fall of Hip Hop for that: that Genre doesn't even know what to do with itself lately and
unfortunately, we're all faced with a generation who grew up thinking that it was actually cool, when it really hasn't been in 20+ years (pretty much
since NWA ruined it with Gangsta Crap in 1989)
On another note, some music has always been banal, yet funny: "Bird Bird Bird is the word" anyone?
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I definitely didn't know that Hip Hop "fell." Isn't Black Eyed Peas considered hip hop? They are definitely more like hip hop was in the 80's before
the gangstas took over.
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| Quote: Originally posted by discodoc | | Isn't Black Eyed Peas considered hip hop? They are definitely more like hip hop was in the 80's before the gangstas took over.
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I dont think so as I like their music. I detest hiphop.
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I heard an interview with her on the radio this morning and I hate her more than ever. She calls her "Followers" Harajuku Barbies?
Huh?
I also finally saw the video: she must know someone who owns a fabric store. It's the worst video I've seen in a long time and helloooo Autotune!
Autotune + Annie Lennox Sample = Lazy.
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